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	GOALS						PENALTIES				GOALS						PENALTIES
31 Danny Lorenz  (N/M)	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	21 Joe Watkins (N/M)
35 Pasi Hakkinen (N/M)	1	72	16	-	9.21	PP	5	HiStick	2	2.46	1	16	14	24	11.54		19	HiStick	2	7.53	36 Brian Greer (N/M)
4 Brent Pope	2	17	72	77	16.56		17	HiStick	2	6.24	2	14	19	10	27.07		2	Holding	2	19.20	2 Mark Matier
5 Patrick Wallenberg	3	5	11	32	45.09		17	Misconduct	10	27.07	3	24	3	19	34.15	SH	16	HoldStick	2	38.27	3 Mike McBain
8 Clayton Norris	4	11	24	-	45.32		17	Misconduct	Game	27.16	4	12	16	-	42.30		33	Roughing	2	31.04	4 Steve O'Rourke
10 Randall Weber	5	72	21	31	57.32		77	Roughing	2	31.04	5	19	24	-	54.58		B	TooMany	2	31.54	X 7 Doug Stienstra DND* X
11 Greg Hadden (A)	6						8	Roughing	2	37.24	6						21	HiStick	2	32.22	10 Brad Peddle
14 Frank Evans	7						5	Roughing	2	40.00	7						4	Roughing	2	40.00	11 Todd Goodwin
16 Claude Savoie	8						4	Tripping	2	51.36	8						4	Interference	2	46.19	12 Darren Hurley (A)
17 P.C. Drouin	9						32	Slashing	2	53.49	9						B	Unsportlike	2	49.25	14 Sam Ftorek
18 A.J. Kelham	10										10						12	Slashing	2	53.49	X 15 Blake Knox (C) DND* X
19 Steve Moria	11										11										16 Dan Ceman (A)
21 Ashley Tait	12										12										19 Mark Turner
X 22 Paul Adey DND* X	13										13										24 Mark Cadotte
24 Jimmy Drolet	14										14										33 Blair Scott
32 Joel Poirier (C)	15										15										82 James Morgan
X 42 Paul Moran DND* X	16										16
44 Barry Nieckar (A)	17										17
55 Darren Maloney	18										18
72 Lee Jinman
77 Calle Carlsson

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Notes:

31 Danny Lorenz and 21 Joe Watkins played in nets.  The Panthers starting forward lines were Poirier/Hadden/Wallenberg, Savoie/Drouin/Jinman, Moria/Tait/Nieckar.  The Panthers starting defensive lines were Maloney/Drolet, Carlsson/Norris and Pope/Evans.  18 A.J. Kelham only played one shift.

The Bees played in their home strip as their black and yellow away strip clashed with the Panthers home strip.

This was 8 Clayton Norris' first game back after the suspension for a crosscheck on London's Trevor Roenick.

P.C. Drouin's Misconduct at 27.07 resulted following the Bees second goal when he hit the puck away in anger.  The puck went in the direction of a linesman who it is said thought the puck was aimed deliberately at him.  Referee Kirkham sent Drouin to the bin for ten.  Moments later, 32 Joel Poirier was held in front of the penalty box by a Bee but no call was made.  From the box, Drouin made an abusive comment to the effect that Kirkham hadn't seen that offence either and Kirkham then awarded a Game Misconduct, throwing Drouin out of the game.

At 32.22, a High Stick was given against Bees netminder Joe Watkins who caught 11 Greg Hadden in the face with his stick as he rushed in on goal.  Hadden was able to rejoin the game after treatment.

At 37.10, 8 Clayton Norris and 16 Dan Ceman got tied up on the boards.  Ceman's stick ended up under Norris' arms and he quite deliberately brought his arms forward to break the stick across his own back to get away.  Moments later, Norris was sent to the bin on his own for punching the same player in front of the referee.

The Unsportmanlike Conduct bench minor penalty at 49.25 was given against the Bees when 12 Darren Hurley hurled a disparaging comment of some sort at Referee Kirkham as he skated past at close range.

At 51.02, the Bees net came off its moorings and 21 Joe Watkins tried to point this out to the officials who had raced away following the play as the Bees forwards encircled the Panthers net.  Watkins waved for a while, then tried hitting his stick against the ice until finally a linesman noticed the errant cage and stopped play.

The Bees goal at 54.58 was controversial as the puck had been handled for literally two seconds by a Bees player who had lost his stick at the other end of the ice.  Play was not stopped and the Bees scored moments later.

The Bees called a time out at 59.01.

The Panthers called a time out at 59.26.

Guestbook Comments

Name: billy
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: 22
Location: notts
Sent: 16.55 - sun 4 nov 2001

Well at least we got a point. Being a big PC fan i was diserpointed with his reactions last night and feel that it was one of the better calls from the ref all night, it was also diserpointing to see AJ only played once, that guy has the ablitity to play good hockey, he showed us that years back when he first played for us and again this season but doesn't seem to be getting the chance. He's meant for subbing when we are down on players so why wasn't he used when PC got thrown out? and to be honest i would prefer to see the likes of AJ out on the ice than Barry N. or Steve M. Barry is great for the goon image but we need skill, speed and goals to even have a chance of beating the other teams and i am sorry but i am not seeing much skill or speed coming from Barry at all this season. On a better note heres to Lee J. and Greg H. for playing extreemly well and using their skill and speed to get us a point !! Come on all the guys we have a good team just put in some more effort.

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Name: Mary Goran
Sent: 14.03 - sun 4 nov 2001

On the Savoie thing I totally agree, I have watched him twice against the Bees in consecutive weeks and he is a very poor player.

Also when is Hakkinen going to be given a chance, to prove he is of the quality the management promised.
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Name: Adam
Homepage Title: A game lasts 60 minutes guys.......
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Old Panthers + others from around the globe
Location: Bakersfield
Sent: 13.02 - sun 4 nov 2001

Well, another point thrown away at home again. When are we going to understand the basic concept that a game of hockey lasts 60 minutes and not 20?? Those of us who bought season tickets in my opinion should be entitled to two-thirds of our money back because we seem to only put the effort in for one period (usually the last). No doubt we had the ‘jobs are on the line’ speech again from Adey in the second interval but why do we continually get ourselves into the position where that speech or words to a similar effect need to be used to rouse the team into action? Why can’t we play a good game of hockey for 60 minutes as opposed to when the players feel like putting in the effort?
The ‘D’ last night was abysmal, how any of them can look Lorenz in the eye after the game beats me. His job is to BLOCK the incoming shot, be it with his catcher, blocker or pads and he kept his side of the deal, and it’s just a shame that the guys in front of him failed to follow in on the rebounds and CLEAR the puck from the net. That’s two Saturday’s in a row where Lorenz has had NO protection whatsoever and if I were him I’d be thoroughly hacked off with some of his teammates at the moment.
P.C Drouin also let the team down last night. There was absolutely NO NEED for him to carry on his rant at Kirkham after he gave him the misconduct penalty. If that was for using abusive language then he can have no arguments and the rules say that if you carry on doing whatever it was that you got the misconduct for then you should be given a Game Misconduct so he had it coming to him, he really should know better.

About Savoie, will someone please get rid of the guy? He brings absolutely nothing to the team at all and is SO, SO slow it’s untrue. I’ve been paying close attention to him for the last few games and it’s clear that he along with a few of his fellow players is woefully under-performing. It seems like he doesn’t want to shoot the puck at any time during the game, even when he does get into the right areas which isn’t too often. Although apparently he has a no-cut clause in his contract, it makes you wonder why he asked for one in the first place doesn’t it.
As for Moria, I think age has finally caught up with him. Don’t get me wrong, he’s been a fantastic servant to British Ice Hockey but his performances for us this season haven’t been what anyone’s expected. Last season he got 22 goals for Cardiff, this year he has 2! What is it about us that brings out the worst in players eh?

Anyway, one last moan, the music again was utter sh**e and the theme from Robin Hood? That went down faster than a lead balloon. Oh and finally would the guy on the PA please refrain from telling us to make some noise, we aren’t thick you know, jeez that really does make my bloody boil.

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Name: Ashotinthedark
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Adler Mannheim, 2000 Commemorative, Avalanche
Location: Notts
Sent: 11.50 - sun 4 nov 2001

The time has come to talk of many things said the Walrus - mostly like how we get rid of Savoie, I was thinking of organising a whip round for his plane ticket so great is my frustration. For a player with a suposed reputation as a goal scorer and a playmaker, and his size, having played on a checking line last year he does surprisingly little. He should offer to leave under the trades description act if you ask me - it shows how little confidence the coach has in him when he wasn't on one PK or power play last night. He has even sunk to the depths of 'wing loitering' in the hope of recieving a pass to latch onto rather than trying to generate opporutnities by forechecking. I cannot remember a player in our colours who seems so apathetic, if he is carrying an injury, rest him but if his head is wrong he should be somewhere else. Hopefully Adey will live by what he said on the radio tonight about making changes, I believe we need a big strong winger who will forecheck aggressively and score the occasional goal - for reasons we saw several times last night, firstly to create chances for the snipers and secondly to take the pressure off the D, who were caught napping 3 times last night, leaving poor old Lorenz to desparately impersonate a pinball machine flipper. As for having a no cut cast iron contract, I would rather we paid him up, like we did with Adolfsson, who at least re-arranged Brebant's body parts in one crunching check, which seems to be outside the wage cap and got someone else - like Chris Baxter, a player who was never afraid to be in front of goal or getting his nose dirty in the corners, virtues which seem to have escaped Savoie.

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Name: Darryl Olsen
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: No2
Location: Nottingham
Sent: 02.29 - sun 4 nov 2001

We should have won by 3 or 4 goals but for some poor finishing and very poor reffing AGAIN. It wouldn't be so bad if nothing came of the odd bad decision, but 2 of the Bees goals came immediately after they should have been penalised. Don't get me wrong Kirkham was neither use nor ornament to both sides, but we just seem to get punished every time by giving up a goal.
Plus points are that we played brilliantly at times and Poirier and Nieckar both had good games. Negative points, Savoie just doesn't seem bothered and Norris spent much more time trying to get himself a penalty rather than playing. PC should know when to shut up and get on with it, very silly.Jinman should shoot more and why didn't Kelham get regular shifts once PC had gone?
Anyway heres hoping for a return of overtime next season, i'm fed up with all these draws!

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Name: Girl In A '32' Shirt
Homepage: http://www.pantherslair.co.uk
Homepage Title: Panthers' Lair
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Poirier '32' Panthers' Home shirt
ICQ Number: 35727919
Location: Beside the last game stick of Niffty#24
Sent: 21.30 - sun 4 nov 2001

When Bracknell score 4 goals where the forward simply has to push the puck into a totally unguarded net, you know your defence are hanging your netminder out to dry. Bloody awful. Danny managed to make the first save and in some cases the second too, but he's not Superman. The scoreline doesn't even mention the one that went off both posts and got cleared off the line.

Reports from those sat above the penalty bin suggest PC called Kirkham a f***ing c***. No excuse. Even if he is smegged off about an earlier call. He let the team down big style. The lines were all over the shop after he got thrown out. AJ got one shift with Weber and Nieckar - WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT THEN ??? I don't understand why we signed AJ if we're still going to use Randall in preference to him when players get thrown out or injured.

Clayton Norris is still bonkers despite his suspension. The bit where he got tied up with an opponents stick on the boards and just got the stick under his arms and broke it across his own back was funny. The bit 10 seconds later where he thumped the guy in the face in front of the ref and got sent to the bin for 2 minutes on his own was considerably less funny.

Jinman was a star though. Thank God for that man. Two more goals and whoever said that first goal he scored might open the floodgates, I hope you're right.

HOW FANTASTIC WAS GREG HADDENS GOAL ?!?! He charged into the attack zone, dispossessed a d-man, nipped past the other who was still going 'Hang on ! You can't do that !', and shot into the top right two steps later. Magic !

And yes, ROBIN BLOODY HOOD MUSIC ??? The last time I heard that it was at the HOS when Simmsy was taking the smeg out of our players coming onto the ice. Someone in the PR Department needs shooting.