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PROGRAMME FILLER
Saturday
15th September 2001
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GOALS |
PENALTIES |
GOALS |
PENALTIES |
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31 Danny Lorenz (N/M) |
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A |
A |
Time |
PP/SH |
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Offence |
Dur |
Time |
No. |
G |
A |
A |
Time |
PP/SH |
No. |
Offence |
Dur |
Time |
31 Joaquin Gage N/M |
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20 Alan Levers (N/M) |
1 |
17 |
21 |
4 |
16.01 |
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44 |
Slashing |
2 |
7.17 |
1 |
30 |
27 |
21 |
4.37 |
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12 |
Tripping |
2 |
17.11 |
33 Colin Ryder N/M |
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4 Brent Pope |
2 |
11 |
5 |
72 |
18.28 |
PP |
24 |
Slashing |
2 |
28.59 |
2 |
17 |
10 |
30 |
21.59 |
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21 |
Hooking |
2 |
23.34 |
3 Ryan Risidore |
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5 Patrick Wallenberg |
3 |
55 |
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47.30 |
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17 |
Slashing |
2 |
30.06 |
3 |
17 |
- |
- |
30.28 |
PP |
3 |
Tripping |
2 |
26.15 |
5 Alan Schuler (C) |
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8 Clayton Norris |
4 |
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17 |
Slashing |
2 |
38.02 |
4 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
50.34 |
2PP |
21 |
Roughing |
2 |
34.10 |
7 Paddy Ward |
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10 Randall Weber |
5 |
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14 |
HoldStick |
2 |
44.21 |
5 |
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21 |
Misconduct |
10 |
34.10 |
10 Erik Norback |
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11 Greg Hadden (A) |
6 |
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44 |
Roughing |
2 |
49.10 |
6 |
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30 |
Hooking |
2 |
36.26 |
11 Cam Bristow |
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14 Frank Evans |
7 |
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24 |
Slashing |
2 |
49.41 |
7 |
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B |
DelayGame |
2 |
38.02 |
12 Mike Jickling |
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16 Claude Savoie |
8 |
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55 |
Elbows |
2 |
56.39 |
8 |
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30 |
Interference |
2 |
38.20 |
X 13 Dody Wood DND X |
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17 PC Drouin |
9 |
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9 |
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11 |
Interference |
2 |
43.40 |
14 Jonathan Weaver |
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19 Steve Moria |
10 |
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10 |
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19 |
Misconduct |
10 |
47.30 |
X 16 Shawn Byram DND X |
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21 Ashley Tait |
11 |
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11 |
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3 |
Tripping |
2 |
53.18 |
17 Ed Courtenay (A) |
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X 22 Paul Adey DND X |
12 |
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12 |
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19 Mike Harding |
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24 Jimmy Drolet |
13 |
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13 |
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21 Ian Herbers |
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32 Joel Poirier (C) |
14 |
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14 |
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27 Rhett Gordan |
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X 42 Paul Moran DND X |
15 |
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15 |
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28 Anders Hillstrom |
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44 Barry Nieckar (A) |
16 |
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16 |
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30 Dino Bauba |
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55 Darren Maloney |
17 |
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17 |
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41 Johan Silfwerplatz (A) |
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72 Lee Jinman |
18 |
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18 |
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77 Calle Carlsson |
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PERIOD SCORES |
SHOTS ON GOAL |
MAN OF THE MATCH |
STRIPEYS |
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1 |
2 |
3 |
F |
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1 |
2 |
3 |
F |
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PANTHERS |
Calle Carlsson |
REFEREE |
Carson |
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PANTHERS |
2 |
0 |
1 |
3 |
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PANTHERS |
12 |
5 |
7 |
24 |
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VISITORS |
Ed Courtenay |
LINESMAN |
Allsopp |
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VISITORS |
1 |
2 |
1 |
4 |
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VISITORS |
8 |
10 |
12 |
30 |
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LINESMAN |
Craig |
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* Did Not Dress
Notes:
31 Danny Lorenz and 31 Joaquin Gage started in nets. The Panthers starting forward lines were Hadden/Poirier/Savoie, Tait/Drouin/Moria, Jinman/Nieckar/Wallenberg. The Panthers starting defensive lines were Drolet/Maloney, Pope/Carlsson, Evans/Norris.
A minute's silence was observed before the game to pay respect to those who were killed in the terrorist attack on the United States the previous Tuesday. The Star Spangled Banner was also played as players faced the twin flags of the UK and the USA which were hung at one end of the arena. All players wore black arm bands.
Confusion reigned at 38.02 as PC Drouin was given a Slashing penalty. Before the ensuing face off, the Eagles were penalised for Delay Of Game due to a late line change. These penalties appeared to be run on the scoreboard as coincidental penalties although this was not the case.
At 38.20, the confusion was compounded when the puck flew over the plexi and 30 Dino Bauba, who was already in the sin bin for an earlier Hooking penalty, jumped up from his seat and hit the puck to stop it flying into the crowd. He was then given an Interference penalty for this action, much to his annoyance and the crowd’s disbelief. Referee Carson attempted to restart play, but was stopped by 5 Alan Schuler who pointed out the Eagles had three men in the bin but only the 2.06 for Bauba showing on the scoreboard. Much discussion at the referees crease ensued and after much deliberation the scoreboard was amended to show Bauba only with 0.06 to go on his penalty and the 2 minute bench minor timed from 38.20. The scoreboard should have shown the bench minor and Drouin's penalties at 1.42 and Bauba on 2.06. As it was, Bauba left the sin bin 2 minutes early and the Panthers seemingly had almost two minutes of powerplay wiped out. This decision prompted chants of 'If you all hate Carson clap your hands' and 'We want a ref !'.
The players and fans alike were further riled by the fact that the game was being littered with erratic offside calls or non-calls on both sides.
The Panthers goal at 47.30 was scored on a delayed penalty with their netminder pulled. After the goal was scored 19 Mike Harding went for Referee Carson and had to be restrained by the two linesman. This earned him a 10 minute Misconduct penalty.
3 Ryan Risidore's Tripping penalty at 53.18 was due to a tangle with 44 Barry Nieckar in which Risidore's stick hooked Nieckar's leg at the knee and pulled him over. Risidore took offence at being penalised for this and squared up to Nieckar. The two men eyeballed each other over the intervening stripeys, but Risidore's threats were somewhat deflated when, neglecting to look where he was skating, he managed to collide with his own bench and fell over backwards causing much hilarity.
At 59.09, the Panthers called a time out and pulled their netminder.
Guestbook Comments
Name: SROG
Location: NOTTM
Sent: 18.46 - sun 16 sep 2001
Well, some interesting comments re last night.....
Carson was what we come to expect, BUT he made some bizare calls for BOTH
sides, our PP was poor & our Defence left Courtenay & others in WAY TOO
MUCH SPACE, at the old place you could get away with it at times smaller cos of
the smaller ice surface, but not anymore!! Ayr did what we should have done by
completely closing down on our best players, all credit to them, Ayr deserved
the win, we were out-played & at times out-coached, but it's early days yet
so no need to panic........
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Name: Chris
Location: Nottm
Sent: 15.31 - sun 16 sep 2001
Although I agree with all the recent postings regarding Carson's usual
bewildering display, I actually thought that the Panthers's display was pretty
poor and lacklustre. The powerplay seems to have reverted back to it's powder
puff self, with no man parked in front, like most teams employ. Liked the
comment about Ayr's size. Our smaller players certainly
had difficulty getting past Hilstrom/Risadore/etc. I think that the better team
won, Ayr kept things simple, tight and waited for chances to come along, and
with Mr.Courtenay around,they must be kept to an absolute minimum. We can blame
the officials if we like, but in my humble opinion, I am yet to convinced about
2 or 3 new players, with regards to being up to ISL standard.
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Name: blondie
Sent: 11.08 - sun 16 sep 2001
I thought both teams played really well last night and thought the standard of hockey was great, BUT Carson was totally crap, I have never seen so much rubbish coming from 3 officials in one game, something needs to be done about the standard of referees in this league. I think that everyone who agrees should email ISL on monday to get something done about it. Bauba, who got 2 min interference whilst already in the box was so unfair, I sit right next to the box and the puck was already out of play and over the plexi, Bauba just stopped it from hitting someone in our block which was a decent thing to do, Carsons call then was so unnecessary. Please people lets get something done about the refs.
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Name: Shorty
Sent: 10.53 - sun 16 sep 2001
We take our seats and we have to watch the bloody Andy Carson Road Show again. The two 5 - 3 powerplays he awarded to Ayr where shocking. They would have been doubtfull calls when even handed, let alone a man down. As Jono says, it is not just us he made bad calls against, Panthers fans booing him when he cocks up with an Ayr penalty puts his performance into perspective. I think he deliberately delayed his exit from the ice to ensure most people had left, so he didnt get booed as much.
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Name: Shaggy
Homepage: http://lacecity-lions.vt9.co.uk
Homepage Title: How To Spoil A Hockey Game
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: New Panthers Home
Location: Nottingham
Sent: 09.32 - sun 16 sep 2001
Firstly, the teams...
I honestly thought the Panthers played reasonably well overall, but not as good
as the previous two games - good passing, but bad receiving - the positioning
of receiving players MUST get better! Welcome back to scoring, PC! - was that
"Drouin Special" a joy to watch or what?? Hadden doing great work,
nice tip-in. Is Brent Pope showing as a ruddy good D-man or what? Calle was
doing great work, but never seemed to be in the right place to let a shot
off... :-(((
The Eagles - bl**dy hell, they've got some big lads! And they used it as well - too much physical stuff for my liking - you know, the 'borderline' stuff that refs tend to ignore. The Panthers game this year is obviously based on speed and a free-flowing game... both Belfast and Ayr have recognised this & are using stifling tactics to shut our lads down. Their first goal was a corker, though, wasn't it?
But.... How To Spoil A Hockey Game?? - Have ALL THREE stripeys as total
incompetents!!
AGAIN the linesmen were missing blatant offsides and whistling borderline (or
onside rushes) - for BOTH teams... but it worked to Ayr's advantage because
their 4th goal was sodding offside!! Anyone else see Lorenz going ape to Carson
about this?
AGAIN all three stripeys were getting in the way of the puck and the players -
not as bad as Rowe last week, but still worse than last season already!
AGAIN Carson was the biggest t**t on the ice! How many Slashing calls vs us
that he pulled out of nowhere? Why was Bauba let out of the box too early? On
the other side, what was that Ayr Delay Of Game penalty for?? And if he was
going to call blatant pens like Maloney's elbowing, then why not the OTHER
side's blatant ones? - like Ayr's #11 cross-checking Drolet in the back while
he's still down on the ice?
Their #19 had to be held back at one point from going over & pulverising
Carson - should have let him get on with it....
Summary Of The 2001-02 Season So Far:
Teams Better, Officials Worse....
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Name: Jez
Location: Nottm
Sent: 02.56 - sun 16 sep 2001
Another typical performance from Carson spoiling what looked to be a good
game after the opening period with a succession of penalties that totally
disrupted the flow of the game, even though it didn't appear an over physical
or chippy sort of game. Having said that the game seemed to turn when Nieckar
stupidly threw his punch in the third,just when we had managed to get some
momentum back. I'm surprised Adey didn't bench him.
Finally, tonight was my first league game of the season,what is that music the
players come out to? I didn't think it could get much worse than last years
intro but they've managed it somehow. It sounds like some dodgy American TV
theme tune.
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Name: Jono#72
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: New away
Location: Basford, Nottingham
Sent: 00.31 - sun 16 sep 2001
F**k me, Andy f*****g Carson you are such a c**t. What could have been a
really top class game of hockey between two good sides was spoiled totally by
that t**t in black & white stripes.
We paid the price for not converting our several PP chances, but when I go to a
hockey game I pay to see the action, not the ref. How many times in living
memory has the crowd chanted 'We want a ref' when the penalty is in our favour
(Dino Bauba incident near end of 2nd).
A bad night all round. When oh when are we going to get decent referees in this
league.
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Name: Ally
Location: Solihull :(
Sent: 22.17 - sat 15 sep 2001
Gutted I couldn't make it tonight, but now I'm not so sure it was that bad a
thing! Even the official iceweb report basically admits that Carson was crap. I
await reports eagerly, though I guess you're probably all drowning your sorrows
somewhere at the moment!