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	GOALS						PENALTIES				GOALS						PENALTIES
31 Danny Lorenz  (N/M)	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	31 Trevor Robins N/M
35 Pasi Hakkinen (N/M)	1	5	10	-	15.26		5	Roughing	2	2.30	1	17	44	-	16.39	PP	6	Roughing	2	2.30	35 David Trofimenkoff N/M
4 Brent Pope	2	5	32	11	24.30		4	Unsportlike	2	8.24	2	7	28	-	56.28		28	Unsportlike	2	8.24	2 Doug Searle
5 Patrick Wallenberg	3						14	Slashing	2	14.47	3	12	17	6	59.58		17	Holding	2	13.46	6 Kim Ahlroos
X 8 Clayton Norris Suspended X	4						14	Holding	2	24.39	4						44	Roughing	2	27.06	8 Trevor Roenick
10 Randall Weber	5						24	Holding	2	41.53	5						6	Holding	2	34.09	X 9 David Struch DND* X
11 Greg Hadden (A)	6						5	Unsportlike	2	44.07	6						44	Holding	2	41.53	11 Nathan Leslie
14 Frank Evans	7						77	Roughing	2	52.06	7						28	Unsportlike	2	44.07	12 Maurizio Mansi (C)
16 Claude Savoie	8						77	Interference	2	54.27	8						B	2ManyMen	2	51.08	X 16 Steve Thornton DND* X
17 PC Drouin	9										9						28	HoldStick	2	52.06	17 Mark Kolesar (A)
18 A.J. Kelham	10										10						19	Misconduct	10	54.06	19 Mike Barrie
19 Steve Moria	11										11										21 Ian McIntyre
21 Ashley Tait	12										12										25 Ritchie Bronilla
X 22 Paul Adey DND* X	13										13										28 Vezio Sacratini (A)
24 Jimmy Drolet	14										14										32 Mike Ware
32 Joel Poirier (C)	15										15										33 Rob Donovan
X 42 Paul Moran DND* X	16										16										44 Paul Rushforth
44 Barry Nieckar (A)	17										17
55 Darren Maloney	18										18
72 Lee Jinman
77 Calle Carlsson

* Did Not Dress

Notes:

31 Danny Lorenz and 31 Trevor robins played in nets.  The Panthers' starting forward lines were Tait/Moria/Nieckar, Savoie/Jinman/Drouin, Hadden/Poirier/Wallenberg.  The Panthers' starting defensive lines were Evans/Carlsson, Drolet/Maloney, then Pope/Carlsson with the defencemen then rolling around to cover the suspended Clayton Norris.

At 15.22 there was an outcry from the crowd as play was stopped early by the referee Rowe in the belief that 31 Trevor Robins had the puck.  He didn't and 21 Ashley Tait had just dispossessed him on the edge of the crease.  A face off resulted.

At 28.00, there was a quite incredible scene as 31 Danny Lorenz charged out of his crease to try and intercept a breakaway.  He marginally didn't get there and dived at the onrushing Knight who leapt over him and Lorenz slid on into the boards in the region of the blue line.  The Knights were unable to capitalise on the abandoned net as the Panthers' defence covered their errant netminder well.

At 41.53, 44 Paul Rushforth and 24 Jimmy Drolet simultaneously received Holding penalties on each other.  This was the third of four coincidental penalties which were given in this game.

At 43.00 a shot from 19 Steve Moria caught 33 Rob Donovan on the foot and floored him.  Play continued and Donovan managed to limp to the bench for treatment.

The Knights' Too Many Men penalty at 51.08 was caused by Panthers' Captain 32 Joel Poirier who deliberately passed the puck to the Knight who had just stepped off the bench and then pointed out the six men to Referee Rowe who made the call.  The Knights' coach was positively apoplectic about this and was seen standing on the edge of the boards screaming at Rowe.

At 52.06, 28 Vezio Sacratini blatantly held 77 Calle Carlsson's stick literally a metre in front of referee Rowe who was looking over the top of the sticks.  Carlsson looked at Rowe to complain, Rowe ignored him, Carlsson then barged into Sacratini and floored him to get his stick back and Rowe then awarded Roughing on Carlsson and Holding The Stick on Sacratini.

At 54.06, 19 Mike Barrie received a ten minute Misconduct penalty for reasons unknown.  He didn't appear to do anything, so one can only assume it was for verbals.  He didn't take it well and wrestled with Linesman Staniforth briefly as he tried to put him in the sin bin.  Referee Rowe fetched Knights Captain 44 Paul Rushforth to sort his player out and Barrie decided there was no point sitting out his penalty anyway as the game would be over first.  He skated back to the bench, ripped his helmet off in disgust and stormed away to the dressing room.

Following the final buzzer, after the Knights' clinched the win at 59.58 with a dreadful goal in which 17 P.C. Drouin helpfully passed the puck to two Knights and Panthers 14 Frank Evans and 72 Lee Jinman took each other out in a collision down the ice, netminder 31 Danny Lorenz broke his stick on the ice, threw his mask into the bench and left before the Man Of The Match presentations.

Guestbook Comments

Name: Girl In A '32' Shirt
Homepage: http://www.pantherslair.co.uk
Homepage Title: Panthers' Lair
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Poirier '32' Panthers' Home shirt
ICQ Number: Look for my name - But mention this site or I won't authorise you
Location: Beside the last game stick of Niffty#24
Sent: 19.09 - sun 21 oct 2001

Gutted. I was wandering around in Bunkers and @d2 in such a foul mood. All my mates kept asking if I was alright. The only words I could come up with were 'TWO BLOODY SECONDS !!!'. That wasn't the reason we didn't take all the points, that was because we simply didn't show up to play the third period and we didn't make the most of dominating the first two periods.

Wallenberg had a great game and Tait showed more than I've seen out of him in a while. Maloney did some good D-work at the back too. Jinman was a joy to behold. All the skating around in pretty circles to absolutely skin several Knights on several occasions was fantastic.

Down points: How fast is Trevor Roenick ??? A bit good and our defence had their hands full with him all night. Total malaise in the third when everyone seemed to be panicking to hold onto the one goal lead instead of going forward. They were just hitting it anywhere. Rowe was evening everything up a ridiculous amount. The Holding on both players was ludicrous. Carlsson asking Rowe if he was ever going to call the Stick Holding going on under his nose and him only calling it with Roughing when Carlsson decked Sacratini to get his stick back. Does anyone know what Mike Barrie got Misconduct for ?

Liked my Joel's sneaky move to get the Knights done for Too Many Men. He passed the puck to the Knight who had just come off the bench and then pointed it out to the ref as the guy going off hadn't cleared the ice. The Knights' coach was jumping up and down balanced on top of the boards screaming about it.

Comedy Moment Of The Match: Nothing could compete with Starfish Lorenz's suicide dive at the blue line. The Knights player vaulted him and he slid on into the boards at speed. The D did very well to cover him, but we were all going 'OH MY GOD !'. Has anyone else noticed that Danny seems to like saving with his feet rather a lot ? Not necessarily a problem, but I know it can be a failing of some footie goalkeepers.
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Name: Adam
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Old Panthers + many others
Location: Block 14, Row P, Seat 12
Sent: 16.34 - sun 21 oct 2001

Well, that’s another two points literally thrown away AGAIN. When o’ when are we going to learn that a game of hockey lasts a whole 60 minutes and not for just when our players feel like performing?
I can already see the headline in the Post tomorrow, ‘Unlucky Panthers so close again’ and basically I’m just sick and tired of reading the same old thing over and over again nearly every Monday.

In my opinion, serious questions need to be asked about why the team simply failed to show up for the third period. It’s all well and good talking about how well we played for the first two periods, that’s irrelevant, but the same old problem is the fact that we just can’t take our chances when we’re on top in a game. More worrying to me though is how can we turn so quickly from such a confident looking team into the disjointed bunch of individuals that we all saw in the last period? Why did we stop playing good hockey at the drop of a hat? More importantly, what the hell’s going on with our forwards? They just seemingly can’t retain the puck to save their lives and that’s where our problem arises. I feel really sorry for our ‘D’ at the moment, they’re having to do so much work. They’re doing their very best (apart from one very prominent mistake from Pope last night) but every time they clear their zone to our forwards they just give the puck straight back to the opposition to set up the next play. To put it bluntly, there’s just too many turnovers in the other teams zone this season. One of the main culprits has got to be P.C Drouin and his mentality that he MUST beat every single opposition player on the ice before he can get a shot away. I dread to think at how many times P.C’s been robbed of the puck this season, he ought to go back to getting the basics right and knowing when the right time to shoot is.

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Name: SROG
Location: NOTTM
Sent: 10.47 - sun 21 oct 2001

The morning after the night before.......
Firstly, good post KillerBus, a neutral point of view that hits the nail on the head.....
IMHO Robins was the difference-maker (yet again) last night, he pulled off some great saves in the 2nd period & then in the 3rd the Panthers 'team' were replaced by a bunch of complete strangers who clearly had never met let alone trained together! We allowed Londons forwards the freedom of Nottingham in the 3rd, all the effort & enthusiasm seemed to have drained from our players, nobody wanted to finish their checks either & the end result 2 goals in a hideous last 5 min's, definitely cannot blame Lorenz for either, perhaps our defence should try doing what they're paid for for a whole 60 minutes!!!

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Name: Shaggy
Homepage Title: Still not getting it right.....
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: The Black & The Gold
Location: Nottingham
Sent: 09.43 - sun 21 oct 2001

Well, that was disappointing, wasn't it? Chatting after the game with a very eclectic group (one Bee, one Knight, 2 Steelers), and the consensus was that we should have won by three goals or more!
The speed is there, the passing is there, the puck-handling is there - and, to be honest, the on-ice motivation is there! (bet we don't hear any more comments about Moria's heart not being in it - he was totally committed!).
Just no finishing. Still.
How many great scoring chances?? - bucket-loads.

We need someone in the crease - where was that - STILL?? I can't believe that PC didn't score on that breakaway - if even a proven goalscorer like him isn't finishing right, you KNOW there's something wrong!

Didn't London look as impressive in the 3rd as they lookes average in the 1st and 2nd periods? And I'm not surprised that Lorenz went ape, throwing his helmet onto the bench and stalking off before the MoM awards - who was it who gave up the puck on our blue-line for that last-few-seconds goal? - think I heard Texpef saying it was Drouin...

That was most definitely two points lost by us, rather than won by the Knights.

And wasn't Rowe being a complete a*se - to both sides?? (what WAS that 10min misconduct against the London player for??).
As for TWICE failing to call the most blatant hauling-down of Panthers players in the opposing zoone that I have ever seen.....
Notice also that on two out of the three delayed penalty calls against London, he also declined/failed to call subsequent offences while his arm was in the air? - he should SO have called that charging penalty against them in the 1st! Guess he has a philosophical objection to 5-on-3s...

But when all's said and done - the Panthers' lack of finishing is the overriding reason we lost the game.

BTW - anyone else have a heart-attack when Danny "Stroller" Lorenz went clear out to the blue-line to stop that breakaway - and fluffed it??? Thought they'd get a goal then for sure - good work by the D to stop that.....

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Name: Mythos Man
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: HC Excalibur Znojemst Orli
Location: Long Eaton
Sent: 09.22 - sun 21 oct 2001

Last night was the 4th occasion (out of 8 home games played) that we have lost by the odd goal after squandering a raft of chances during the game – what I wouldn’t give to see the sniping instincts of Paul Adey back on the ice rather than behind the bench! This year’s squad’s biggest downfall is consistency – at times (usually restricted to one period in any game) they play like world-beaters, blowing away opposition at will. At other times, performances are disjointed and lacking in conviction. The result? A team that has only managed to string together a 2 game winning streak all season. Last night, I firmly believe that the defeat was attributable to the wrong tactics applied, particularly in the 3rd period. We entered the period 2-1 up and then proceeded to defend much deeper and allowed the Knights to skate at us instead of standing them up at the blue line. Against a side as talented in attack as London, but with the most suspect defence in the Superleague, these tactics make no sense at all. Just look what happened when, by necessity, we had to throw caution to the wind 2 weeks ago against the same opponents – 5 3rd period goals! Our pitiful shots tally of 3 shots in the 3rd period last night says it all. When are we going to learn that attack is the best form of defence? Additionally, most other teams know our style of play inside out and know they can stifle it by aggressive forechecking. We will probably hear next week from the Panthers PR machine just how unlucky we were and possibly another assertion from Herr Flick that we can still win the league – mathematically perhaps yes, but until we are able to put together a 4 or 5 game winning streak, this enigmatic squad are never going to be real contenders.  Unfortunately, Paul cannot issue threats of redundancy every game!

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Name: Wyrd
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Panthers Away
Sent: 00.15 - sun 21 oct 2001

Well I'm disappointed but after that third period we got the result we deserved. Totally agree with previous posts - coaching is very obviously at fault, when players come out into the third period with such a slim lead and obviously no motivation, then we must expect to lose the advantage. And what the hell was happening with the third period line changes? No way was Lorenz at fault, if anyone should be in the firing line let's start with Mr Dampier, and move swiftly on to Brent Pope. We have no defense! Also by now we should expect Sacratini's antics, so why didn't someone drop the gloves on him and go for it? I'm tired and fed up, so that's my take on the game in soundbites. One last point, thank god for Jinman!

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Name: KillerBus
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Coyotes( Steelers away from last season when I getta see 'em)
Location: Nottingham University
Sent: 22.36 - sat 20 oct 2001

Ok seeing as how I've been fairly starved of hockey so far this year I went to your barn tonight to watch the match. For those that are interested here are my thoughts.

Firstly I was surprised by the game, personally I thought both teams seemed reluctant to check or take men into the boards, although Panthers were noticably stronger in the corners than London were. The knights were definitely preferring to poke check and use stick work to try to gain possesion but the Panthers did manage to ride a lot of these attempts and make the pass/shot. In comparison Panthers seemed content to let London dump it and then dig it out in corners or drag the puck carrier into the boards (whilst not really checking them) and then win possesion. Panthers would probably have won had they took the body more.

Having seen the Panthers 3 times this season I'd say your biggest problem and the reason your failing miserable to improve your goal/shot ratio is that you constantly let the netminder have a clear view of the puck. I don't know whether the players have been told not to do it or whether its they just keeping dropping the ball. Lets face it Panthers have some big players like Drouin, Niekar and Jinman. If Drouin and Jinman just stood in front of him or close to him and created the screen then guys like Hadden could use that bullet of a shot he has and score a couple more and Drouin and Jinman are more than capable of getting a smart deflection or pouncing on a rebound. Nieckar has strength and whilst he may once in a while get a lucky deflection or rebound he'd more been around the net simply to unsight the netminder as the majority of d-men are gonna find it damn hard to shift him. Furthermore I'd like to praise Jinman who appears to be a very talented all round player, able to hold onto a puck, pass it, shoot it and score.

Although I have to say Panthers were incredibly lucky. Knights could and should have sown the game up in the first and definitely by the second. Why didn't they I hear you cry? Simple, they kept trying to walk the puck in. The first time London took a proper shot on goal (rather than the attempts to pass it in) came just over 16 minutes into the first and the rebound fell to Kolesar who scored. They didn't appear to leanr how to shoot until late in the third and when they started they scored twice. Again Knights complete and utter lack of physichality meant they rarely cleared out the front of the net (not that they had too much anyway).

Personally I think you have a squad miles better than last year but you fail to play to its strengths. In order for the Panthers to be successful the coaching team you have have to change their game plan to work to the teams strengths or there should perhaps be a mini revolt of sorts on the ice where the players forget the wisdom of the coaches and the natural leaders get the team playing to each players strengths.

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Name: Carole Wall
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Rollersnakes
Sent: 22.35 - sat 20 oct 2001

Well, we lost 3-2 and I am gutted. Yet another game where we dominated for long stretches of time but come away with zippo zilch. When are we going to learn to finish off our chances? When is PC Drouin going to start playing? Why don't we play the other netminder? When are we going to start bringing in a couple of genuine goal scorers?

You can't fault 99% of the team for effort, but we need someone WHO CAN SCORE GOALS - and quickly.