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	GOALS						PENALTIES				GOALS						PENALTIES
31 Danny Lorenz  (N/M)	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	No.	G	A	A	Time	PP/SH	No.	Offence	Dur	Time	1 Mark Bales N/M
35 Pasi Hakkinen (N/M)	1	72	32	24	15.29	PPx2	4	Roughing	2	9.22	1	19	24	23	8.00		18	HoldStick	2	4.44	37 Mark Cavallin N/M
4 Brent Pope	2	17	72	16	29.35		32	Roughing	2	13.10	2	14	11	19	59.59		11	Roughing	2	13.10	2 Terran Sandwith (A)
5 Patrick Wallenberg	3	32	11	-	41.26		17	Roughing	2	16.50	3						18	Interference	2	13.36	X 4 Shane Johnson DND* X
X 8 Clayton Norris Suspended X	4						32	Slashing	2	19.05	4						2	Roughing	2	13.45	11 Colin Ward (A)
10 Randall Weber	5						14	Tripping	2	27.14	5						19	Roughing	2	16.50	14 Kevin Riehl
11 Greg Hadden (A)	6						14	Roughing	2	27.14	6						22	XCheck	2	19.05	16 Rob Stewart
14 Frank Evans	7						B	2ManyMen	2	31.14	7						23	Roughing	2	27.14	17 Jason Ruff
16 Claude Savoie	8						44	Hooking	2	42.17	8						44	Holding	2	33.34	18 Sean Berens
17 PC Drouin	9						44	Holding	2	49.18	9						18	XCheck	2	46.44	19 Jeff Hoad (C)
18 A.J. Kelham	10										10										21 David Matsos
19 Steve Moria	11										11										22 Curtis Bowen
21 Ashley Tait	12										12										23 Chad Allan
X 22 Paul Adey DND* X	13										13										24 Rod Stevens
24 Jimmy Drolet	14										14										27 Paxton Schulte
32 Joel Poirier (C)	15										15										X 28 Jason Bowen DND* X
X 42 Paul Moran DND* X	16										16										44 Todd Kelman
44 Barry Nieckar (A)	17										17
55 Darren Maloney	18										18
72 Lee Jinman
77 Calle Carlsson

* Did Not Dress

Notes:

31 Danny Lorenz and 37 Mark Cavallin played in nets.  18 A.J. Kelham dressed for the Panthers but did not play.  The Panthers' starting forward lines were Tait/Moria/Nieckar, Savoie/Jinman/Drouin, Hadden/Poirier/Wallenberg.  The Panthers' starting defensive lines were Drolet/Maloney, Pope/Carlsson, and then Evans/Carlsson with the players rolling round to cover the suspended Clayton Norris.

At 8.00, Referee Hanson gave an absolute joke of a goal.  A Giants forward raced in on the net and collided with Panthers netminder 31 Danny Lorenz.  The two men careered into the post of the goal, knocking it off its moorings and the Giant ended up sat in the net.  In the middle of all this 19 Jeff Hoad shot the puck in.  The Giants didn't celebrate and the goal light did not come on, so they just started pulling their player back to his feet and shoving the net back on its moorings.  However, after a few moments deliberation, Referee Hanson pointed to the goal and skated away to the scorers bench.  Several Panthers players set off in hot pursuit as it became apparent Hanson was awarding a goal, but to no avail.  The Giants looked somewhat sheepish and a rather muted celebration of the goal went on.  Video of the goal was replayed on the concourse following the first period and the issue of when the net came off its moorings looked like a much closer affair than it had live as the net held its ground for a moment after Lorenz and the Giant collided with it, before giving way.  But it was clear that the onrushing Giant was sat entirely in the crease and net without any help from a defender.  Referee Hanson was loudly booed for the remainder of the game.

At 13.10, after a number of chippy arguments had gone off in the frustration that followed the first goal, a scuffle broke out around the Panthers net.  The net got knocked off its moorings and all the players ended up in a heap in the crease.  The Giants argued the puck had gone in somewhere under the pile of bodies while the home crowd chanted 'Goal ! Goal ! Goal !' at Hanson.  Pinned at the bottom of the pile was 24 Jimmy Drolet whose discomfort was being further added to by the fact 23 Chad Allan was hitting him.  32 Joel Poirier and 11 Colin Ward were also having a slap fight on the other side of the melee.  Poirier and Ward were penalised, while Allan walked free.

The Panthers' Too Many Men penalty at 31.14 resulted when 11 Greg Hadden was slow to get off the ice.  He was right next to the bench and I'm not sure if his replacement had touched the puck, but Hadden's presence caused an offside meaning an extra man had indeed interfered with play.

At 35.39, a goalmouth scramble occurred and netminder 37 Mark Cavallin tried to cover a bobbling puck.  Hanson who was stood on the wrong side to see the play clearly whistled it dead, but the puck was volleyed into the goal roughly a second later.  The Panthers complained about the whistle, but there was little that could be done as the whistle couldn't be unblown.

At 36.52, 17 P.C. Drouin and 23 Chad Allan were back tracking up the ice off the puck and Allan decided to punch Drouin in the back of the head.  Drouin complained to Hanson, but as the referee didn't see it no call was made.

At 37.22, 32 Joel Poirier was felled by what looked like a high stick.  He lay motionless mid-ice for some time before play was stopped.  Poirier received treatment on the ice and his place on the line was taken by 10 Randall Weber.  He returned to play on the next shift.

At 58.24 Belfast called a time out and pulled their netminder.  For the remaining minute and a half, several goal mouth scrambles went off in the Panthers' crease in which Belfast tried to convince Hanson the puck had gone in and the home crowd were still chanting 'Goal ! Goal ! Goal ! ' in response to any dodgy goal appeal made by either side.  At the fourth attempt Hanson finally gave in as the goal light came on a moment or two later following a scuffle.  It appeared that netminder 31 Danny Lorenz had either saved the puck behind the line or saved it and then slid over the line.  But as only 0.9 seconds remained on the clock, it made no difference.

Guestbook Comments

Name: Ashotinthedark
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Adler Mannheim, 2000 Commemorative, Avalanche
Location: Notts
Sent: 18.51 - sun 28 oct 2001

Savoie has far more negatives to my mind than pluses - even caught myself shouting for him to get off the ice in the second period when he missed an easy pass from Jinman, he just doesn't seem interested. OK the pass for the goal was great but he was standing still, its his lack of movement and anticipation that worry me, and the fact that only when someone has put a rocket up him that he forechecks, that and the fact that despite the team setting him up time after time he still fails to find the net.

On a less controversial note how many times did we hit the pipework last night? Never mind the Hanson idiocy I've come to expect it with him, but the last 2 mins wouldn't have been in the equation if we'd scored the 3 that hit the post. Also have to disagree with the rightful score - should have been 4-0, 1st 'goal' net off, man in crease, second goal 3 men in crease and goalie obstructed, our 'goal' Cavallin dropped it so fair do's.

Finally 3 things - player who has grown on me week on week - Wallenberg, the kid must be on Prozac or something the energy he expends during a game wears me out just watching. Player who is exceeding every expectation, Ashley Tait - looks good enough to be drafted to me,his speed, his handling of the puck and his interpassing with Moria and Drouin were a dream last night. Players to get shot of - Savoie, see above, Players to come back - Chris Baxter in front of goal.

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Name: Shaggy
Homepage Title: Giant-killers?
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: New Panthers home
Location: Nottingham
Sent: 15.25 - sun 28 oct 2001

As Ginger said to me in the pub afterwards, last night's scoreline really would have been 4-1, if we'd actually had somebody competent in the stripey shirt-with-water-wings. However, a win is a win is a win - and WELL deserved!
Maloney is a good solid player, I think and deserves recognition - but surely MoM last night was either Poirier or Jinman? HOWEVER - damn good overall performance.

Interesting to note that we have now met Belfast (current league leaders, remember!) FOUR times so far - and beaten them on three of those occasions! Last year, we beat the league leaders more than any other team - looks like we're on for it again... ;-)))

Belfast showed why they are the current league leaders - especially in that last two minutes when they pulled the netminder - the pressure they put on us was enormous! Major congrats to the D and Danny Lorenz for weathering (almost all of) that storm.

But, like Ayr, the Giants have figured out how to ruin our game. We have such a FAST team this year - sheer speed seems to be the cornerstone of a lot of the Panthers' work ethic - and Belfast were SO clutchy-grabby-holdy. Interesting that Hanson called Neickar for TWO seperate Holding offences (obviously keeping a very close eye on 'naughty boy Baz'), but let so many go from the visitors....

The visitors' MoM Rob Stewart?? - hardly saw him. IMHO, their most dangerous guy was Sean Berens - he has skill by the bucket-load, so why the hell does he have to be so narky? Pity really, because I think he's a player that any team would want...

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Name: Sav
Homepage: http://www.panthersroar.co.uk
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: 36 Garden Warm Up Shirt
Location: Sutton-in-Ashfield
Sent: 14.04 - sun 28 oct 2001

I have to disagree about Claude Savoie.

He was fantastic during the build up for our second goal battling along the boards before giving the puck to jinman.

I know he looks slow, but so what!!

I think the line of Drouin, Jinman and Savoie has the potential to be one of the most lethal in the league and now Jinman's broke his scoring duck, I think that line will fly.

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Name: Adam
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: Panthers + many from around the globe
Location: Bakersfield
Sent: 13.54 - sun 28 oct 2001

Well, to be able to talk about a win is nice change. I thought that last night’s game was a very gritty one but this time we rose to the challenge and battled real hard sometimes going into areas where the players KNEW they were going to get hurt. I’d just like to give a special mention to Moray Hanson for his excellent officiating of the game last night, NOT. Poor old Moray couldn’t control a couple of fighting 7 year olds in a school playground let alone a game involving 36 grown men armed with sticks, and perhaps deep down he wanted the thrill of presiding over another bench-clearing game. Well, it didn’t quite get that far (thank god) but if any up and coming official wants to see HOW NOT to referee a game it was that one. The decision for the Giants first goal was a disgrace, and how an ex-netminder didn’t come to the opinion that the goal should have been washed astonished me. Lets put it into context here; the puck was put into the net and came to rest UNDER the Giant who had knocked the net off its moorings, make of that what you will.

I think that Lee Jinman deserves a mention on here as last night he was brilliant, I’d say that’s the best game he’s played for us since coming to Nottingham. It makes me wonder how much more he’s got in the tank because if he’s still not performing to his maximum ability then I can’t wait until he is, what a player and it must be a weight off his mind getting that first goal under his belt, let’s hope he can get a few more this season.
Another mention should go to Joel Poirier for his work ethic and sheer hard work and he got his reward with a really well taken goal. From the way he celebrated, boy did he enjoy it!

I was also watching Claude Savoie closely last night and again, he failed to live up to expectations. Personally, I think he’s been a real letdown and I really do think that there are plenty of players available who could and would do a better job than him. To me he just seems slow, lethargic and not up to the pace of the game nearly every time I’ve seen him play. I would still sacrifice him in order to get the free-scoring player that would complete our roster and make us a force in this league.

And I wish whoever it is on the PA system would STOP telling us to make bloody noise. I really do object to that, I mean who does he think he’s talking to, Sheffield fans???? We don’t need to be told when to cheer for the team and I personally find it degrading. Only Simms stoops to that level.

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Name: Jono#72
Homepage Title: Predictions King !!!!
The Hockey Shirt You Wear: New away
Location: Basford, Nottingham
Sent: 12.23 - sun 28 oct 2001

Good win last night and a great performance from most of the team. Belfast are a great side and it's no surprise to me that they are sitting on top of the pile, so a result like this against them should hopefully do wonders for the team.
Lee Jinman's goal was a great effort, that will be one hell of a monkey off his back. He was unlucky not to score another with a shot that pinged back off the post.
Personally I thought MOM was between Jinman & Poirier who both had superb games, but I think Darren Maloney got it for his performances so far this season. He has been a rock at the back, going about his job with calmness and efficiency. He reminds me very much of Roy Mitchell, who was another class act.
All in all two points well won, especilly in the face of some appalling refereeing by Hanson, and some shocking offside calls by Craig (I spotted at least 3 that were never offside and 2 where we were blatently offside but he didn't call it!!)
The Giants first goal never was. Apart from the net being off it's moorings, there was a Giants player in the crease/net. I was amazed when he gave it, a shocking decision. Panthers also should have had a goal in the 2nd after Cavallin dropped the puck, but in fairness to the ref he had blown the whistle.
I don't think for a minute that Hanson is biased, I do think like many of the referees he is simply crap.

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Name: number 3 (Nottm)
Sent: 12.16 - sun 28 oct 2001

After Jono's excellent call re. Lee Jinman, how about predicting a second goal for our #72 star today in Bracknell. I reckon last night might just have opened the floodgates!

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Name: Simon morley
Sent: 01.06 - sun 28 oct 2001

good game tonight against tremendous opposition.... tremedous opposition in the name of Hanson....

First goal disputed... what about the second ?

2 Belfast players in the crease ?

I lost count of the amount of times that our netminder got ran over well in the double figures.... from an ex netminder ref you'd have expected some protection for the netminder but it seemed very much open season...

We all call for strength of character from our players, and it's normally in the shape of dropping the gloves... but Malonney today showed great character in turning the other cheek against some serious cross-checking.... well done

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Name: Wyrd
Sent: 00.22 - sun 28 oct 2001

The video did confirm what most us knew, the first Giants goal was not a goal, Hanson didn't even bother consulting the goal judge, who would have told him that, still nice to know we employ these people for no reason. Anyway, great game Panthers - Lee what would we do without you! BTW PC's parents were in the crowd tonight, anyone else notice a difference in his game?!