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The 19th and 20th Centuries

Earlier Ostles

The Family of John (1828-1890) and Rachel
Rachel (Harrison) was born in 1826 and died in 1884
Lived first at Border Farm, then at The Nook and finally bought New Cowper in 1868

MARY born 1858.
Gave birth to an illegitimate son, Joseph "Jose" Ostle in 1881. According to family tradition the father was Joseph Stockdale whom she subsequently married but Jose's name was never changed.

SARAH born 1860
Married her cousin Joseph Ostle of Mawbray Cote
moved to Mawbray Yard.

JOHN born 1863
Married Agnes Lyttleton
Farmed first at New Cowper and then bought Cowgate. Died 1927.

RACHEL born 1868

JANE HANNAH born 1871
Married Robert Lyttleton.

THOMAS born 1874
married twice. Moved to Aspatria.

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The Outgang Ostles

Thomas (1874-1953)

Thomas was the youngest child of John Ostle whose Journal is featured on this site. His elder brother John was 11 years his senior. His father died when he was 16. Before he was 21, Thomas had a row with John and walked out. After a spell of farm service, he went to 'serve his time' with a local mason. He often recounted the fact that he walked to work every day, starting at 6am worked until dark and then walked home; all for two shillings per week!

His first wife, Ann Margaret Osborne was a schoolteacher; they had one daughter, Annie. Ann died in 1904, probably in childbirth. At this time, Thomas was farming at Wolsty but, after his wife's death, he found it impossible to carry on there and moved to Aspatria with the intention of becoming an auctioneer.

In the first decade of the twentieth century, Aspatria boasted a weekly produce market held on the Market Square. Thomas always said the first thing he ever sold was a sack of potatoes and, after knocking them down, an onlooker was heard to say "thou'll have to do better than that, Thomas". He did do better and, after a year or so decided to start a Cattle Mart. At first this was again in the Market Square but soon he was able, with his brother John, to finance the building of a proper mart a short distance away at the point where King Street enters Market Square.

In 1911, he married for the second time to Hannah Edmondson. He must have known Hannah for years. She was the daughter of William Edmondson of Mawbray a Bacon Curer who, with the help of his other daughters, also ran the village post office. They were all members of the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel at Mawbray and he and William were both on the committee for Mawbray Schoolroom.

Tom and Hannah on holiday

Hannah was five years younger than Thomas. He took her back to Aspatria where he had purchased "The Outgang" a large house, only a two minute walk from his Cattle Mart. Their two sons were both born there, William in 1916 and Joseph in 1920.


The Outgang

The Auction Mart prospered and was important enough by the outbreak of war in 1914 to ensure that Thomas was exempt from military service. However, all was not well between Thomas and his brother John. Thomas always maintained that, when John sold his farm stock through the auction, he always took the money out but never paid when he bought anything. John's point of view may have been very different but, eventually, there was a serious rift between the brothers and they severed their connection with each other. This split lasted all their lives and the two parts of the family only began speaking to each other again in the 1950's when John's son, Tommy, visited his Uncle Thomas at Aspatria when he became bedridden following a stroke.

After the first World War, he bought an Army "arms dump" at Dalston, near Carlisle. During the dismantling, a rope slipped and a girder fell, narrowly missing one of the workmen. Thomas ran, pushed him out of the way and was caught a glancing blow on the top of the head by the girder. He was lucky not to have been killed. He had to have his hair shaved off to dress the wound. It never grew back and he was left with an indentation in the top of his skull ever after.

In the early 1920's he stood for and was elected to the Aspatria Parish Council, he continued to serve on this body until well into the 1930's. All his life he was a committed Christian, a pillar of the Wesleyan Chapel and a Local Preacher.


Thomas' notes for a sermon. His text is "consider the lillies..." Matthew 6.xxviii
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In the 1930's it was decided the chapel was too small and new premises should be sought. The only suitable building in the town was the 'Market Hall' which was no longer used as such. The trouble was the Wesleyans had no money. Thomas came to their rescue and said he would buy the Market Hall and they could repay him over a period of time.

This was agreed and he went ahead a bought the building. At the next meeting of the Chapel Stewards, it was disclosed by one member that it was possible to obtain a grant from the J. Arthur Rank Trust provided that they built a new chapel. After a stormy meeting, this idea was carried and Thomas was left with a Market Hall on his hands. Of course after this "dirty trick" he left the Wesleyans and worshiped at the Congregational Church not rejoining the Wesleyan's until years later, when the people involved had all died.

In fact, the acquisition of the Market Hall was a blessing in disguise. It enabled him to add Furniture Sales to his Auctioneering work and he let the hall for other local activities such as band practices, political meetings, flower shows and Roller Skating organised by Charlie Over, the local Cinema proprietor.

In 1928 his sister Sarah died. She had lived at Mawbray Yard and owned Mawbray Cote, a farm on the coast road near Beckfoot and two other houses in Mawbray Yard. She left the farm to Thomas but also willed that he pay legacies to various nieces and nephews. This made the farm almost worthless at the outset and it took many years to recoup the cash outlay involved. During the 1930's, despite difficult times, he managed to pay for the private education of both his sons at the Friends' School, Brookfield, Wigton; William attended from 1928 to 1931 and Joseph between 1933 and 1936.

Thomas was always very kind-hearted, always willing to help people down on their luck and very caring of old friends. Three of these were the Nichols, two sisters and a brother who lived at Wheyrigg, a house just south of Abbeytown on the Wigton road. He often visited them, always taking a gift of baking or logs. On her death in 1931 the last sister left all her estate to Thomas. This consisted of the house at Wheyrigg, a Farm at Whinclose and a smallholding at Seaville. The will was contested by a relative but Thomas won the case although the costs were such that he was forced to sell the house at Wheyrigg to cover them.


The 'Carlisle Journal' reports the case

He now owned two farms, a smallholding, The Outgang, the Market Hall and a Cattle Mart. In the early 1930's he sold the Cattle Mart to Hope's who owned the mart at Wigton which, by this time, had superseded Aspatria as the main local market town. He continued to go to Wigton every Tuesday and sometimes on Thursdays too to help Hope's with the clerking on their busy days. Although Hopes continued to work Aspatria each Wednesday, it gradually lost custom and eventually closed down in the 1950's.

In the late 1930's Thomas added an extension to the old dairy at The Outgang and turned this into a second house. It was bought by his brother-in-law, William Hastings, who lived there with his wife Sarah, Hanna's sister. Uncle Willie and Aunt Sarah then really became part of the Ostle family for the next twenty-five years.

At the outbreak of the Second World War, he was already 65 and, although very active in business had given up all his church offices and council duties and was content to employ his workmen, keep his farms in good repair and help the war effort in any way he could. He was also an Income Tax Commissioner at a time when a substantial land-holding was a requirement for the office.

When Thomas had purchased The Outgang the deal had included quite a lot of farmland. After the war, the local council wanted to build council houses. Thomas sold most of this land to them and it became the St Mungo's Park housing estate. He also sold the Market Hall which became Aspatria's Labour Exchange and now held his furniture sales in the old farm barn at The Outgang. The local joiner and blacksmith, who had his premises in the yard behind The Outgang, went bankrupt just at the same time and Thomas bought his business.

Under his careful management, he pulled the business round and installed machinery making it into a proper sawmill. He bought plantations, cut down the trees, sawed and seasoned the wood to produce farm carts, gates, rails and fences, in fact all the things needed by the local farmers. He also had one man permanently employed in making wooden soles for the miners' clogs. This was a very skilled job and, due to the large mining community in the district, was quite profitable for a number of years.

Thomas' wife Hannah had a half-sister, May Bell. May's husband, Ben Bell, was considered a bit of a waster by the rest of the family. On one occasion, he left May and went to live with another women for a time. May now ran the Mawbray Post Office and Grocery Store and had fallen into financial difficulties. Thomas loaned her some money which she was never able to repay. In order to make restitution she handed over to Hannah a smallholding of 11 acres near Beckfoot known as Solway View which had been left to her by her father.

This was now another property for Thomas to 'Keep-up'. He did all the work on the farms himself using the men from the Sawmill business. The balance sheets for many years did not show much profit as he never booked any expenses out to himself. His skills as a mason were used to the full especially dry stone walling at which he was an expert. In fact, on his 70th birthday he was re-building a wall at 'The Cote'. Part of this property was a stretch of seashore from Dubmill point to Mawbray Yard. On one part of this was a sand and gravel pit, let to Peter Greggains of Maryport, which provided a nice regular income. During the excavation of this mound a Roman observation point was discovered.

Thomas' daughter, Annie, married James (Jim) Bland of Aspatria. Annie's stepmother, Hannah, firmly opposed the match but the wedding had to go ahead as Annie was already pregnant with a daughter (Mary). Thomas never disclosed what he thought of this. Annie left The Outgang and was not welcomed there for some years but Thomas must have visited her in secret and helped her financially.


Thomas with some of his family in the garden of The Outgang in 1950. Back row (l. to r.): Sybil (daughter-in-law), Hannah (wife), Sarah Hastings (Hannah's sister) and William Hastings (Sarah's husband) who lived next door. Front Row: Sheila Anne (grand-daughter),Thomas himself, Joseph Peter (grandson, now your website manager) Behind the Camera: Joseph (younger son)

In 1950 he suffered a stroke and remained bed-ridden until his death on June 3rd 1953, the day on which Queen Elizabeth II was crowned in Westminster Abbey. He was buried in the church yard at St Kentigern's, Aspatria. In his will he left a thousand pounds to Annie, his properties at Whinclose and Seaville to his eldest son William and The Outgang and Mawbray Cote to Joseph. For probate purposes these properties were valued at: The Outgang £3,650, Whinclose £5,250, Marsh Stints £1,600, Seaville £525, Mawbray Cote £2,850.

Hannah chose a text for Thomas' Death Notice: "Called, Chosen, Faithful". This would have been a perfect epitaph for both of them. Their absolute Christian faith was the most important fact in both their lives. They were devoted members of the North Road Methodist chapel in Aspatria to which Hanna presented a new pulpit cloth in memory of Tom.

Joseph Ostle, © MM.

Thomas' second wife, Hannah

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The Family of Thomas and Ann

ANNIE
Married James Bland

The Family of Thomas and Hannah

WILLIAM EDMONDSON (1916-1998)
Married Mary Walker (1918-1997) on February 8, 1941 at Mawbray Methodist Chapel

JOSEPH (1920-
Married Sybil Naylor-Whalley on January 23, 1941 at St Peter’s Church, Bromsgrove

My R.A.F. Years
By Joseph Ostle.

Almost the whole of my five years in the R.A.F. were in 80 Wing, with its headquarters at Radlet, north of London and out-stations in the countryside near industrial towns. Its objective was to interfere with the Germans’ use of radio waves in any form. A complete account can be found in the book "Most Secret War" by R.V. Jones.

Joe in 1940 at the Hagley outstation near Birmingham
80 Wing was born when it was discovered that the German aircraft used radio beams to locate their target. The system was to lay a beam between 35 to 45Mc/s onto the target. The sounds heard on the beam by the German pilot were in two parts, one radiating dots and the other dashes both on the same frequency. In the centre of the two beams there was a continuous note. However, the Germans flew on the dot-edge and  we transmitted dashes to mask them. Next were three beams on 65 to 75Mc/s which crossed the main beam at right-angles. Beam One indicated "getting near the target", Beam Two "very near" and Beam Three "Target, drop bombs".

Of course, to jam all this a great number of transmitters were required.  These were in very short supply but Winston Churchill thought it was important enough to give orders for transmitters to be unloaded from ships which were taking them overseas. Our operations continued throughout the war and were successful apart from the terrible air raid on Coventry in 1940 when the cathedral was destroyed. Some of the blame was put on our station at Kenilworth. A week or two later, I was sent down to sort things out. The sergeant in charge there was not a lot of good, he seemed more interested in finishing the novel he was writing at the time. I managed to sort things out fairly successfully.

We had listening stations, mainly on hilltops, which found the correct frequencies to use and monitored our cover.  The Germans also had fixed stations on the continent which were used by aircraft when lost, to take bearings and  find their position. We interfered with these by picking up the signal at the listening stations and re-transmitting it.  This meant that the German signal was used as the source and whatever they did  was repeated in the jamming signal and, however hard they tried, they could never prove we were interfering with the original.  When a pilot realised that he was lost, he usually got frantic and asked the ground station to take a bearing for him. This, of course, we also re-transmitted so he was again given a false position. This was one of the reasons why Ireland was bombed.

In 1944, the Germans started to use the V1  pilotless  flying bomb. The offical RAF picture below shows a Spitfire tailing one of them. At first it was thought that they were radio-controlled but, when their remains were investigated, it was found they contained  a length of copper wire, so it was assumed the bomb had a transmitter and bearings were taken on this. We investigated this at Ditchling where I was in charge. We found the signal from the transmitter sounded just like the bomb’s engine. However, when the engine cut out, which it had been programmed to do, the noise stopped and only a pure note was heard. The Germans took a bearing on this to see where it had dropped. We, of course, used the previous system to re-transmit the signal. The big snag was there was so little time to tune a transmitter, so we had  three or four transmitters to cover the band used and push the signal into the appropriate one.  By this means, we managed to move many of these "buzz-bombs" out into the Thames estuary.

The Post Office made us a transmitter which would send as many signals as were fed into it on whatever frequency. We had just taken delivery of this when the Germans became very suspicious and sent six bombs, all with transmitters, all at the same time.  We dealt with the lot and the Germans were convinced that their bearings were true. 

The big problem was that the transmission from the Flying Bomb was very short and this made it difficult to train new people in what they were listening for so we borrowed a wire recorder from the Americans.  This had been made by the Armour Research Foundation – part of the meat packing company.  If the wire broke the only way to repair it was to tie a knot in it and anneal it with a cigarette.  It was just a little thing but, oh boy, it was great.

One day Flt. Lt. Jeffries, a senior officer in the wing,  phoned  and asked me to take the recorder to Eastbourne and show them how to work it. After this I walked outside with Jeffries just as a buzz bomb came over. The site was on top of Beachy Head, high up. The buzz bomb was pretty low. You could feel the heat from the rocket engine as it passed. The noise was deafening. After it passed Jeffries said: "Would you like to come down here in charge of this lot?" "What?" I said, "with those things?" "Oh, you needn’t worry," he said "They never stop here!" They didn’t and within a fortnight I was at Eastbourne. 

From time to time I did quite a lot of jobs for Wing Commander Hignet who was the top man, except for the Group Captain. One day he called me and  told me there was a German station causing a lot of trouble with our marker beams. The station was either in Holland or the Channel Islands. He asked me  to go down to Devon with the equipment and find a true bearing. I went and found it was in the Channel Islands.

When I phoned HQ to tell them, the duty officer said that Wing Cmdr had left a message saying he had forgotten it was Christmas Eve and that he would like me to take the van and go home for Christmas. I pointed out that I lived in Carlisle. “It’s a bit far that” said the officer.  So I just went back to my billet in Eastbourne for Christmas. Years later I learned that the station in the Channel Islands had been bombed on Christmas morning and completely destroyed so at least I did something right.

Next came the V-2 rocket.  This was investigated by our station at Eastbourne, and again I was in charge. We soon  realised there was nothing we could do as  radio control was not involved.  After this I was sent to Holland-on-Sea and was put in charge of the search for airborne radar.  We never found anything as, by this time, raids were few and far between and, shortly afterwards, the war ended.

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